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Update on zenphoto

August 23rd 2005

Joen’s theme for the upcoming zenphoto is complete, so check out his post on the usability and design strategies he incorporated into it.

I figured I should show it in action, so I’ve uploaded the latest zenphoto to the usual place, which is full of some great new design.

No, it’s not done yet. Look, I’m on 0.6, and I’ve got 0.7-0.9 to go before I can call it 1.0! ;-) If you want to see exactly how much left there is, look at the list, and please tell me if there are things in for 1.0 you don’t care about so I can put them off until later.

Also, while I remember, I prefer the spelling “zenphoto”, though I really don’t care if you capitalize and add spaces.

Also, if you’re looking for an amazing new album to listen to, get Illinoise by Sufjan Stevens (iTunes) now. It’s blown me away on first listen, and I’m still only on track 20.

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24 Responses to “Update on zenphoto”


  1. gilhoo Commented at 12:59 am on August 24th 2005

    Your list sounds great Tristan ! Godd job ! Good luck for the rest of your work.

  2. Ben Commented at 1:49 am on August 24th 2005

    The Sufjan Stevens is indeed excellent! :)

  3. SAPO!! Commented at 1:54 am on August 24th 2005

    WE WANT MORE!! ;))
    this is gonna be great, can’t wait to test it.

    btw, I’d like to password protect certain galleries (u know, like family ones, or my ex girlfriend’s pics ;))): will this be a feature?

    ciao from Milan Italy

  4. Levi Commented at 3:32 am on August 24th 2005

    Awesome mate, looking forward to it. :)

  5. Anders Kusk Commented at 5:37 am on August 24th 2005

    Well I think that most people would prefer the “true image manipulation” function to be seperated into a plugin.

    Looks great, hope to see version 1.0 before the 14 september :)

  6. gilhoo Commented at 9:31 pm on August 24th 2005

    I think Anders is right. Keep your script very simple and dedicated to show pictures only. Image softwares like photoshop or gimp will do the rest…

  7. Tristan Commented at 9:52 pm on August 24th 2005

    Anders and gilhoo - I agree, but I thought it might be useful to have some functionality; I’m going to have an image rotator (for portrait/landscape switching on cameras that don’t do it for you (like mine)). Other than that, maybe crop. Nothing complicated, and I promise it won’t come for a few years. ;-)

    I am focused on keeping it simple, and if I add extra features, they’ll make sense and be there for a reason.

  8. Jonas Rabbe Commented at 10:06 am on August 25th 2005

    Feature request: Add drag & drop rearranging of images in an album, either only in the edit admin view, or also in normal gallery view when logged in. Would rock my shoes.

    I was just uploading some images to a coppermine gallery of a friend, and the upload/gallery options are totally impossible to figure out. And then I thought to myself, wouldn’t it be cool if I could just rearrange photos the most obvious way?

    Another thing. When uploading, make sure the images are put into the gallery in the order they are uploaded. The coppermine gallery I was uploading to reversed the order of the uploaded images. Took me one 10 image upload to figure that out… And then I was forced to go through each image to put it into an album… How’s that for user friendly… NOT.

    Can’t wait for zenphoto. Galleries done right.

  9. gilhoo Commented at 9:56 pm on August 25th 2005

    Tristan > For Jonas’ request: http://tool-man.org/examples/sorting.html

  10. Bilal Commented at 10:50 pm on August 25th 2005

    Tristan, it looks great so far. I really can’t wait for the release! I know I asked you about this before too, but is it possible to add a fading effect when an image loads?

    Also, is it going to be possible to customize the gallery theme to our own likings?

    Cheers. :)

  11. Tristan Commented at 10:55 pm on August 25th 2005

    Bilal - yes, a fade effect is possible if you want to add it to your theme. Just take the javascript that does it from photostack.

    Jonas, gilhoo - I’ve added drag-and-drop ordering to the list. I think it’s a great idea, but of course you know it’ll have to wait until I’ve thought about how ordering is going to be implemented…

    Right now, the order is based on however the files are returned from the directory listing, which is usually by mtime (last modified), so unfortunately for Jonas, uploads will show up in reverse order. I’ll see if I can’t fix that before 1.0.

  12. Bilal Commented at 11:12 pm on August 25th 2005

    Thanks Tristan, I’ll look into that. Also, we can customize the theme of zenphoto, right?

  13. Tristan Commented at 11:46 pm on August 25th 2005

    Yes, of course. :)

  14. Bernard Commented at 1:59 pm on August 30th 2005

    Positional bug in Opera: http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=opera5pn.gif

  15. Tristan Commented at 9:27 pm on August 30th 2005

    Thanks Bernard. I’ll take care of that.

  16. Grant Palin Commented at 12:50 pm on August 31st 2005

    Hi, I’ve been using Simple PHP Gallery for some time, and it’s okay…I can upload photos into directories via FTP, but there’s no configureation features, and I have to manually edit a text file with photo labels and album names. Tedious!

    I’ve been searching for a better solution, and was thinking of writing my own in PHP, but then I found your site and this project. Wow! I think I’ll wait for the release of the software, and use that! It seems to have all the features I want, and I like what I see in the live demos.

    I will definitely be keeping an eye on this one, and will try it on my site once it becomes available. Keep it up!

  17. junkie Commented at 1:23 am on September 4th 2005

    release when ? i like zp :)

  18. Jamie Rees Commented at 11:00 am on September 7th 2005

    Zenphoto is exactly what I’m looking for - can’t wait for the release ;)

  19. Bryan Ward Commented at 2:59 am on September 11th 2005

    As others have said, Zenphoto is exactly what I’m looking for too, is it possible that there is going to be a pre-release version? Also, is this going to be open source? Possible to contribute towards it’s development?

  20. Jina Bolton Commented at 4:10 am on September 11th 2005

    gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme gimme!!! I’ve been silently watching this for a while, but I can’t hold my silence any longer - I want ZenPhoto!!! ;)

  21. Tristan Commented at 12:01 pm on September 11th 2005

    Bryan - Yep, it’s completely open source once I decide to make it that way, and yes, I will be looking for developers to help once I get the first release out the window. I’m going to be very strict about coding and design standards though. I’ll give you more info once the time comes.

    No, there will not be a prerelease version. Unfortunately, I’m afraid of any release spreading like wildfire, along with inherent bugs, so the first release is going to be very robust. I hope you don’t mind… ;-)

  22. Mick Commented at 12:08 pm on September 11th 2005

    Can’t remember if I’ve brought this up on your site before but have you considered using IPTC metadata for image info?
    I have been following the discussions on noscope regarding the gallery/cms debate but haven’t gotten round to actually writing to any of you and your gallery system seems to be the best of the lot so here goes.
    Almost every gallery system from folderblog to coppermine has the ability to display EXIF info from an image… who cares?! IPTC is the info people might actually be interested in. Location, title, keywords, city, dates, description, people, etc. Rather than what ISO was used for the image. Or both if you want.
    The important thing is, software like photoshop, bridge, or even better iView media pro allows you to batch enter IPTC information to thousands of images and embed that information so when you use PHP or something to parse the info you can display it on a web page just like EXIF info can be. This way you don’t have to use a web interface to enter things like titles and descriptions. It’s all done in software that can batch process it all before hand and save a hell of a lot of time.
    At the moment there are a few systems that can display IPTC info extracted from an image. Coppermine and Snipe Gallery to name a couple but they are systems that aren’t as nice and simple as Zen Photo. At the moment Snipe’s page is down but that is a fairly simple system that is almost there, however it is far from where yours is at. It would be great to see IPTC info from an image as an option in your gallery system sooner or later.

    There I finally did it. Thanks and nice work.

  23. Tristan Commented at 11:11 pm on September 12th 2005

    Mick - Sounds like a great plugin you or someone else could make once I put a plugin interface in. :)

    I will take a look at it for earlier versions however. I wish I’d heard about that before I began development; it may be that I could have used the images themselves to store metadata instead of a database.

    No, I take that back. DB will be orders of magnitude more efficient once I add custom groups and searching. Anyway, thanks for bringing it up. I’ll definately research it.

  24. Mick Commented at 5:21 am on September 13th 2005

    The Snipe page is up again and here is a link to one of the pages on the demo which has keywords underneath the image. The IPTC info is originally embeded in the image and (I think) the info is extracted using PHP.

    http://snipegallery.com/demo/image.php?page=1&search_type=and&image_id=1100&keyword=car&search_cat=

    You can find out more about snipe at http://snipegallery.com

    This is (what I’ve found to be) the simplest of any of the galleries using IPTC info.

    Oh and I’d love to help you out with a plug in but I know VERY little about producing this kind of stuff :-) I could help you with design but joen looks to be doing a great job there.

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