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	<title>Comments on: Xbox 360 launch&#8230; not quite full circle.</title>
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		<title>By: Tristan</title>
		<link>http://www.trisweb.com/archives/2005/05/13/xbox-360-launch-not-quite-full-circle/comment-page-1/#comment-1901</link>
		<dc:creator>Tristan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2005 23:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, it sounds very nice. It's interesting that &lt;em&gt;all three next-gen consoles&lt;/em&gt; (Xbox360, PS3, and the new Nintendo console) will be using IBM processors and ATi graphics. This could mean great things for the PC market, which is where I see all this innovation heading. With the previous generation of consoles, it was the PC that dictated the hardware in the console, this time it could be the other way around, and the incredible market for the consoles should bring a lot of the same innovation into the PC market. Like I said, I can't wait to get a Mac running an 8-way Cell processor at around 4 GHz. 'Cause you know it's gonna happen. :-D </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, it sounds very nice. It&#8217;s interesting that <em>all three next-gen consoles</em> (Xbox360, PS3, and the new Nintendo console) will be using IBM processors and ATi graphics. This could mean great things for the PC market, which is where I see all this innovation heading. With the previous generation of consoles, it was the PC that dictated the hardware in the console, this time it could be the other way around, and the incredible market for the consoles should bring a lot of the same innovation into the PC market. Like I said, I can&#8217;t wait to get a Mac running an 8-way Cell processor at around 4 GHz. &#8216;Cause you know it&#8217;s gonna happen. <img src='http://www.trisweb.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jacob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jacob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2005 21:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Specs are nice... and from what I've read it seems that the logic shared between the three cores is minimal... hense the need for people to want to refer it as having "3 processors."

Also, I don't think it's surprising at all that Microsoft decided to go with IBM and their PowerPC architecture for the Xbox360.  Since the Xbox was their first foray into console gaming they went with what they knew... Intel's Pentium 3 and Nvidia graphics running basically on a 'pc-in-a-closed-system' idea.  Now that they have had their experience, the idea of moving towards solutions that aren't necessarily comfortable might be a way to enhance development and increase profits.  Already I've heard that they will make money with this console, instead of the giant losses they had on the original xbox hardware.

Also, Nintendo's Gamecube used an IBM PowerPC processor running around 455mhz and had an ArtX (a company since purchased by ATI) graphics chip with 3MB embedded DRAM.  What Microsoft has done here, in my opinion, is basically take what the gamecube had and multiply by a fuckton.  And if you've seen any of the recent gamecube games (RE4 sticks out in my mind) you will see just how developers crank out the best of that hardware... something I'm sure directly  appealed to Microsoft.

I anxiously await Sony and Nintendo's proposals.  It's rumored that Sony has a Cell processor running at 4ghz with 8 parallel pipes and Nintendo seems to also be working with IBM again on a custom chip to meet it's needs.  I think Microsoft, especially if it launches this year, is going to completely take over this next gen console war.  With their hardware, I don't blame them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Specs are nice&#8230; and from what I&#8217;ve read it seems that the logic shared between the three cores is minimal&#8230; hense the need for people to want to refer it as having &#8220;3 processors.&#8221;</p>
<p>Also, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s surprising at all that Microsoft decided to go with IBM and their PowerPC architecture for the Xbox360.  Since the Xbox was their first foray into console gaming they went with what they knew&#8230; Intel&#8217;s Pentium 3 and Nvidia graphics running basically on a &#8216;pc-in-a-closed-system&#8217; idea.  Now that they have had their experience, the idea of moving towards solutions that aren&#8217;t necessarily comfortable might be a way to enhance development and increase profits.  Already I&#8217;ve heard that they will make money with this console, instead of the giant losses they had on the original xbox hardware.</p>
<p>Also, Nintendo&#8217;s Gamecube used an IBM PowerPC processor running around 455mhz and had an ArtX (a company since purchased by ATI) graphics chip with 3MB embedded DRAM.  What Microsoft has done here, in my opinion, is basically take what the gamecube had and multiply by a fuckton.  And if you&#8217;ve seen any of the recent gamecube games (RE4 sticks out in my mind) you will see just how developers crank out the best of that hardware&#8230; something I&#8217;m sure directly  appealed to Microsoft.</p>
<p>I anxiously await Sony and Nintendo&#8217;s proposals.  It&#8217;s rumored that Sony has a Cell processor running at 4ghz with 8 parallel pipes and Nintendo seems to also be working with IBM again on a custom chip to meet it&#8217;s needs.  I think Microsoft, especially if it launches this year, is going to completely take over this next gen console war.  With their hardware, I don&#8217;t blame them.</p>
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		<title>By: Tristan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tristan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2005 05:46:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it's going to be integrated at first (size hasn't yet been decided) and eventually it'll be optional (and presumably external), with memory cards from 128MB to 1GB. And yes, all that's in the links.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s going to be integrated at first (size hasn&#8217;t yet been decided) and eventually it&#8217;ll be optional (and presumably external), with memory cards from 128MB to 1GB. And yes, all that&#8217;s in the links.</p>
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		<title>By: CheeseDuck03</title>
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		<dc:creator>CheeseDuck03</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 May 2005 00:10:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anything about an integrated HDD included in the system?  Maybe those links you left have something about it, but I haven't gotten to them yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anything about an integrated HDD included in the system?  Maybe those links you left have something about it, but I haven&#8217;t gotten to them yet.</p>
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